Last weekend was my first Harvard tournament and the first time I hadn’t gone to Berkeley since I started debating in 2008 (that’s eight Berkeleys!). It’s been fun judging and coaching in the northeast this season, but skipping out on Berkeley was a bummer. I missed the familiar food, the hordes of debaters, and the Marxist bookstands. And to my knowledge, there is no Crepes-A-Go-Go in Cambridge.
Still, there were many excellent debaters and wild rounds at Harvard. I came up early to coach at the RR, and I ended up judging 18 rounds and staying until semis of the tournament. Needless to say, it was a lot of fun and very exhausting.
Without further ado, here are ten random musings, featuring last weekend’s Harvard tournament!
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“The plant is the degraded supplement of the ideal human, against whom ontological violence is visited daily, a necessary side effect of the metaphysical project of self-definition and constitution. The ROB is thus to endorse the best method of plant pedagogy — learning from plants is a crucial starting point for rupturing violent dichotomies and paving the way to ethical engagement with the Other.”
Wait, what?
I saw so much creativity last weekend! It started Round 1 with Evanston HS’s plant pedagogy aff, quoted above. Here are some other cases I saw that stuck out:
I’m sure there’s stuff I’m missing, but how cool! Kudos to these debaters for taking risks. Comment below on any really cool cases you saw on the topic!
Holy moly, these were a bear. There were about 200 judges to rate, and my understanding is that the bottom half of them were going to be in the JV pool, but we had to rate them anyway. I’m generally a fan of over-including judges, e.g. when I tab a tournament, I always include myself in the pool in case I’m really needed, but Harvard’s policy is egregious. It more than doubles the amount of time needed to do prefs since many of the judges who should be strictly JV don’t have paradigms. I’m quite thorough with prefs, so I run Google searches like “Jane Doe debate” to try to get more information. It took at least two hours. You want to know what would speed up the process? Ordinals!
For those who did have paradigms, I came across such gems as:
Judges like these are to be expected at a giant tournament like Harvard, but the sheer number of them was unlikely anything I’ve seen.
Nonetheless, the top 4 seeds (all RR participants) made it through to semis without any upsets, so it seems the judging pool didn’t add too much randomness when it came to the most important rounds.
I had the pleasure of judging Byram Hills LP, Oak Hall KZ, Oakwood AW, and St. Andrew’s Episcopal IB at Harvard. These sophomores and freshman (KZ) were outstanding! They showed great strategic vision, knowledge of the topic, and guts to try new arguments. I can’t wait to see how they perform in future seasons if they keep working this hard.
And if I’m forgetting anyone, sorry! I don’t always know everyone’s years. Comment below on other impressive underclassmen at Berkeley/Harvard!
Huh? How are we supposed to disclose or do any research if there’s no public Wi-Fi at the tournament site? Apparently only a small number of devices could connect at once to the grade school network, which meant most didn’t have any internet Day 1 or Day 2.
I was shocked and haven’t seen this in quite some time. A lack of Wi-Fi is not only uneducational in creating worse debates, but it also exacerbates the effect of resource disparities. Teams with great mobile data and hotspots are at a huge advantage in a no Wi-Fi world.
Lack of public Wi-Fi should disqualify a site from hosting a tournament. Period.
What an amazing way to cap off the year for Premier alums at Berkeley and Harvard. These students put in a ton of effort last summer to improve, and the new research, writing, and strategy elements of the curriculum clearly paid off. The following is the list of Premier debaters who cleared last weekend with bid-getters in bold. Congrats!
You can think disclosure is bad, but this one is baffling to me. Several teams at the RR and tournament proper refused to flip against my students.
Not flipping doubles the amount of prep before a round for no reason other than gamesmanship. In thirty minutes, it’s hard to prep as it is: a lot of teams have multiple affs and oodles of neg positions that span the ideological spectrum. Why add more pressure on both sides’ prep time?
Stanford and Cal Berkeley both had posted flip times when one debater got to pick sides if the opponent hadn’t shown up. More tournaments should employ this simple fix.
I had such a blast at the tournament outside of rounds and prepping. I hung out with two former debaters that I hadn’t seen in over six months. I talked to a million people and met a bunch of new debaters. While there are some enduring regional rivalries, I didn’t feel like there was bad blood among any coaches or debaters, at least that I could see. Everyone was really friendly. This was a marked contrast from the Berkeley tournament last year, which had its fair share of dust-ups. Special shout-out to the following awesome coaches and judges I had a chance to see and chat with: Paloma O’Connor, Andrew Pérez, Sophia Caldera, Wesley Hu, Becca Traber, Rahul Gosain, Preetham Chippada, Chris Kymn, Mathew Pregasen, Sam Azbel, Kathy Wang, and Paul Zhou.
It’s so funny to me that the northeast is all theory these days. Current debaters aren’t surprised to hit metatheory and 1AR theory in most rounds at a tournament like Harvard, but it wasn’t always like this! When I was debating, most east coast debaters were very substantive and generally philosophically-inclined. Debating Scarsdale in 2011 meant pulling out Gauthier blocks and figuring out what to say against motivational internalism. Now it often means fine-tuning a spike-filled underview.
Theory is the best example of something I like and don’t like. I think even more than K debates, theory is the swingiest area in modern LD. A good theory debate is a recipe for a 29.5 in front of me as I see it as the purest demonstration of tactical and technical mastery there is. A bad theory debate is a recipe for a facepalm and a migraine.
Luckily, theory debate has generally improved from where it was even four seasons ago. It takes two steps forward for every step it takes back. Here are some quick hits on what I think of the state of theory:
I’m a slow judge. I’m meticulous. I like to consider every argument, and I don’t start thinking about who’s winning a close debate until it’s over. So I expect that sometimes I’ll get e-mailed by tab or a student worker will bother me for my ballot. It doesn’t happen at many tournaments, but it happens. Harvard’s schedule made this situation inevitable.
A two-hour decision time for two flights enforced by threat of fines and pref-canceling is absolutely ridiculous. Especially for a tournament trying to run JV rounds in the same rooms in between Varsity rounds. Berkeley also uses the same rooms for multiple events, but it runs three rounds a day for precisely this reason.
Two hours is a fine amount of time to put on a schedule, but it can’t be the drop-dead time backed by threats. No way. Consider how long it takes for two flights, assuming one starts on time:
Total – 1:55 is the minimum amount of time. That leaves 5 minutes of wiggle room for any of the following common occurrences:
Given Harvard’s ambitious schedule, tournament directors or tabroom officials or whoever shouldn’t be threatening judges on Day 1. They definitely shouldn’t communicate those threats to judges’ students, who should be focused on debate and not worrying about whether they’ll have prefs the next day. It also pressures judges, which may lead to worse decisions.
If you want to have a decision time backed by threat, put it in the invite, and it should probably be about 2:30, measured from the start of the round, not the posted start time.
Here are some suggestions for judges, including myself, to help get through rounds faster:
Here are some suggestions for tournament directors:
Although the TOC Advisory Committee decided to switch from seven to six prelim rounds roughly ten months ago, a number of us just found out about it last weekend. I’m torn. On the one hand, side bias is real and the neg has a significant advantage. On the other hand, TOC has always been seven rounds (except in 2011) and now there’s likely to be a full or nearly-full doubles debate; that diminishes the significance of clearing at TOC and is more of a grind for tired coaches and debaters than a prelim. I spoke about it today with Committee member Scott Wheeler, so I might write up more on the switch at a later date. Let me know what you think in the comments!
Bob Overing | Co-Director
Bob is a co-director of Premier, coach for Walt Whitman HS, and current Yale Law School student. As a senior in high school, he was ranked #1, earned 11 bids and took 2nd at TOC. In college, he cleared at CEDA and qualified to the NDT. His students have earned 80 career bids, reached TOC finals, and won many championships.
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“‘Combo’ shells are usually nonsense. Maybe something like ‘no conditional PICs’ is okay, but when we get to ‘neg can’t read the Hobbes NC, T, deny the aff the RVI, read the NIB that they read, and turn the aff,’ things have gotten out of hand. As I commented in response to ‘Dumpling’ on my theory advocates post a year ago, it’s very unlikely that these shells isolate unique, structural abuse. Most of the time it seems they just complain about the 1AR being hard under the guise of ‘strat skew.’ Then the 2NR only justifies why some part of the violation is fair, not the exact combination of things they did, and I have to vote aff! Arg!”
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Hi Bob,
I was at Harvard as well. I think your 10 points are pretty spot on. I like prefs and was glad that our prefs were the only judges we saw, but the long list took a substantial amount of time to wade through. The King school was a beautiful building and accommodating in many ways. However, one additional nuisance I had was the lack of drinking fountains or even making water bottles available. They had the water bottle refill stations but they did not turn them on (at least to my knowledge), which left the only drinking fountain we could find (next to tab room) in the basement. If you were on the top floor for a round and wanted water it meant going down those 4 flights of stairs. We solved this on Day 2 by just bringing extra water bottles for competitors, but this is the only tournament I have attended that did not provide water concessions or have access readily available. Our own thought on this was the strict policy of no food/drink outside the cafeteria. That policy may need some rework considering how many competitors I see that need water before/after a speech.
One of my debaters asked for water during Round 6 or Triples, I forget. I went to get it from a table of a bunch of tournament workers, and the guy wanted to charge me $2 for a water bottle. Crazy!
I’ve also never seen ‘no food’ enforced so strictly. Every tournament goes through and cleans the rooms after the tournament, rearranging things, erasing the white boards, etc. This is just the cost of running a tournament, so I really don’t like imposing it on the debaters, several of whom were chastised very harshly by tournament staff.
They need food and water, and we need to be able to move from a cramped cafeteria to prep while eating and drinking to save time.
The Harvard tournament was very uncomfortable.
crepes a-go-go shut down lel
this is by far the most tragic occurrence of the century and i am thoroughly disappointed in the universe for this sin against all humanity….. i really love crepes (a lot)
One of the best freshman in my opinion is easily Harvard Westlake JN. I hit her at glenbrooks and go absolutely slaughtered and I didn’t find out until recently that this is only her second year and that she is only a freshman. The fact that she can qual (she might have bid at Berkeley to get her 3rd) as a freshman is incredible.