This year, we’re debuting TWO new ranking systems at Premier Debate Today. The first is modeled off the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP) ranking system, so we’re calling it the ‘Association of Debate Professionals’ (ADP) as a nod to this origin. The rough idea is to reward more points for elim wins at tougher tournaments. The second is a familiar ELO system where every round adjusts the ELO rating of each of the two competitors in that round. More on the methodologies below.
Methodology: ADP is a points system awarded based off tournament toughness. The points per elim round finish are as follows:
This point number is then multiplied by the proportion of the tournament’s BLY variable over the previous year’s TOC’s BLY variable (which for this year is 292). BLY (Bids in Last Year) is calculated by taking the sum of bids entries at a tournament have earned in the last 52 weeks. The points a debater earns at a tournament replaces the points they earned at that tournament last year.
Example for Grapevine: Debaters attending that tournament had earned a total of 8 bids in the last 52 weeks. Double Octafinalists received (5)(8/292)=0.1369863014 points. The Champion earned (100)(8/292)=2.739726027 points.
Grapevine BLY: 8
Loyola BLY: 48
1 | Jack Wareham (Oakwood) | 94.42422189 |
2 | Grant Brown (Millard North) | 69.82332155 |
3 | Trent Gilbert (Valley) | 66.1130742 |
4 | Jonas Le Barillec (Peninsula) | 54.09098863 |
5 | Noah Simon (Crossroads) | 53.66087419 |
6 | Oliver Sussman (Cambridge) | 53.54063604 |
7 | Raffi Piliero (Harrison) | 51.16961131 |
8 | Lavanya Singh (Mission San Jose) | 44.55830389 |
9 | Alex Zhao (La Canada) | 43.93810648 |
10 | Nina Potischman (Hunter College) | 38.18021201 |
11 | Srivatsav Pyda (Harker) | 27.89260634 |
12 | Zack Gelles (Scarsdale) | 25.12367491 |
13 | Connor Engel (Harvard-Westlake) | 24.10928268 |
14 | Ariel Azbel (Lake Highland) | 21.24028268 |
15 | Nisarg Shah (Lynbrook) | 19.89918882 |
16 | TJ Foley (Valley) | 19.61130742 |
17 | David Min (American Heritage Plantation) | 18.13427562 |
18 | Gillian Zipursky (Scarsdale) | 17.65017668 |
19 | Indu Pandey (Harvard-Westlake) | 16.14815194 |
20 | Derek Zhang (Mountain View) | 15.39129052 |
21 | Zoe Ewing (Scarsdale) | 14.62190813 |
22 | Ashish Wadhwani (Dulles) | 14.204947 |
23 | Shankar Krishnan (Ridge) | 14.06713781 |
24 | Ryan Younger (Brentwood) | 13.41218557 |
25 | Karen Xia (Mountain View) | 13.13995617 |
26 | Evan Engel (Harvard-Westlake) | 12.82882686 |
27 | Morgan Grosch (Cedar Park) | 12.80047437 |
28 | Kaushal Balagurusamy (Lexington) | 12.71024735 |
29 | Muhammad Khattak (Lake Highland) | 12.22614841 |
30 | Jerry Wang (Peninsula) | 12.01413427 |
31 | Varun Venkatesh (Lynbrook) | 11.99843817 |
32 | Jason Yang (Kinkaid) | 11.10439683 |
33 | Whitley Perryman (Montgomery) | 10.71024735 |
34 | Ishan Gaur (Peninsula) | 10.4070865 |
35 | Zoe Posner (Bronx Science) | 9.667844523 |
36 | Richard Cook (Strake Jesuit) | 8.670216371 |
37 | Parker Whitfill (Phoenix Country Day) | 8.490182046 |
38 | Harrison Wang (Lynbrook) | 8.119883387 |
39 | Prachit Bhike (Mission San Jose) | 7.199803193 |
40 | Saavan Nanavati (Westwood) | 7.02308921 |
41 | Danielle Dosch (Immaculate Heart) | 6.908646797 |
42 | Priya Kukreja (Millard North) | 6.696113074 |
43 | Rithvik Seela (Lake Highland) | 6.272084805 |
44 | Conal Thomas-McGinnis (Valley) | 6.173144876 |
45 | Sekou Cisse (Success Academy) | 5.90106007 |
46 | Evan McKinney (Valley) | 5.282685512 |
47 | Jong Hak Won (West Ranch) | 4.710295755 |
48 | Eric Wallach (Collegiate) | 4.525920906 |
49 | Aram Moghaddassi (Syosset) | 4.498233215 |
50 | Chaitanya Sayani (Dougherty Valley) | 4.461913495 |
51 | Kyle Yuan (Collegiate) | 4.424028268 |
52 | Jack Briody (Byram Hills) | 4.314487632 |
53 | Jake Davidson (Harvard-Westlake) | 4.258854295 |
54 | Madison Lewis (Northland Christian) | 4.232231516 |
55 | Chris Sun (Millburn) | 4.197879859 |
56 | Sammi O’Reilly (Harrison) | 3.886925795 |
57 | Jonah Wu (Syosset) | 3.816254417 |
58 | Matt Zinman (Harrison) | 3.74204947 |
59 | Kenzo Okasaki (Rowland Hall-St. Mark’s) | 3.471887999 |
60 | Nirmal Balachundhar (Lexington) | 3.448763251 |
61 | Roshan Sadhwani (Holy Cross) | 3.339222614 |
62 | Katherine Fennell (Stuyvesant) | 3.307420495 |
63 | Adam Eljamal (Harrison) | 3.272084805 |
64 | Xavier Roberts-Gaal (Walt Whitman) | 3.268551237 |
65 | Krupali Patel (Lake Highland) | 3.197879858 |
66 | Lucas Clarke (Cypress Woods) | 3.125562709 |
67 | William Park (Harvard-Westlake) | 3.065527575 |
68 | William Lai (Rosemount) | 2.932862191 |
69 | Matt Gofman (Hendrick Hudson) | 2.897526502 |
70 | Rachel Maciariello (Montgomery) | 2.809187279 |
71 | Shruthi Krishnan (Greenhill) | 2.739726027 |
72 | Thomas Leavitt (Kempner) | 2.636042403 |
73 | Chakra Jonnalagadda (Cypress Woods) | 2.517788857 |
74 | Whit Jackson (Brentwood) | 2.491685666 |
75 | Raymond Xu (Harker) | 2.358813794 |
76 | Jordan Farenhem (Pembroke Pines) | 2.173144876 |
77 | Matthew Gross (Harvard-Westlake) | 2.155477032 |
78 | Spencer Paul (Harvard-Westlake) | 2.147248173 |
79 | Jessica Zhang (Woodlands College Park) | 2.054794521 |
80 | Alex Bauman (Oakwood) | 2.04099908 |
81 | Oliver Zhao (Monta Vista) | 2.023331236 |
82 | John Boals (Apple Valley) | 1.943462898 |
83 | Grace Kim (Marlborough) | 1.931168014 |
84 | Briana Aaron (Newark Science) | 1.899449837 |
85 | Vikram Kalghatgi (Ridge) | 1.886925795 |
86 | Douglas Wickham (Loyola) | 1.846446303 |
87 | Farzaan Kaiyom (Torrey Pines) | 1.740645723 |
88 | Vandita Pendse (Mountain View) | 1.696113074 |
89 | Arlo Weiner (Oakwood) | 1.68764219 |
90 | Varun Paranjpe (Mountain View) | 1.687435702 |
91 | Alexandra Mork (Harvard-Westlake) | 1.643835616 |
92 | Chris Wang (Lynbrook) | 1.643835616 |
93 | Javier Navarrete (Columbus) | 1.628975265 |
94 | Macalah Thomas (Cedar Park) | 1.602594511 |
95 | Adejoke Mason (North Atlanta) | 1.501766784 |
96 | Dhruva Mambapoor (Westwood) | 1.497652355 |
97 | David Moon (Collegiate) | 1.47998451 |
98 | Melissa Chau (Lake Highland) | 1.342756184 |
99 | Patrick Aimone (Servite) | 1.334285299 |
100 | Sienna Cabbage (Valley) | 1.325088339 |
Methodology: ELO is a ratings system which sees debaters points go up and down based on their wins and losses. The bigger the gap between debaters, the more potential points to be earned by the upset, but less to be earned by the higher rated debater. The K (standard change) value for a tournament is calculated by: ((natural log of the BLY for a tournament)/(natural log of the previous year’s TOC))(20). Example for Loyola: Debaters attending that tournament had earned a total of 48 bids in the previous 52 weeks. The natural log of last year’s TOC was: ln(292)=5.676753802. The natural log of Loyola was: ln(48)=3.871201011. So the K value for Loyola equals: (3.871201011/5.676753802)(20)=13.63878423. All debaters who have not had a previous round that year start at an ELO of 1000.
Dictionary: D1=Debater 1, D2=Debater 2, St=Starting,
Elo formulas:
EndELOD1=(StELOD1+(K*(SD1-ED1)))
EndELOD2=(StELOD2+(K*(SD2-ED2)))
RD1=10^(StELOD1/400)
RD2=10^(StELOD2/400)
ED1=(RD1/(RD1+RD2)
ED2=(RD2/(RD2+RD1)
SD1=1 (WIN) OR 0 (LOSS)
SD2=1 (WIN) OR 0 (LOSS)
K=(((ln(BLYTournament)/ln(BLYTOC))*(20)))
Grapevine K: 7.326164263
Loyola K: 13.63878423
1 | Oakwood School – North Hollywood JW | 1072.717694 |
2 | Crossroads NS | 1052.732161 |
3 | La Canada AZ | 1041.513252 |
4 | Lynbrook VV | 1033.797462 |
5 | West Ranch JW | 1033.569244 |
6 | Mountain View DZ | 1033.455317 |
7 | Greenhill SK | 1029.476829 |
8 | Woodlands College Park JZ | 1028.993467 |
9 | Lynbrook NS | 1027.805361 |
10 | Harvard-Westlake EE | 1027.243047 |
11 | Peninsula JL | 1026.858843 |
12 | Strake Jesuit CP MC | 1025.408334 |
13 | Collegiate EW | 1021.671226 |
14 | Collegiate DM | 1021.598786 |
15 | Strake Jesuit CP RC | 1021.560581 |
16 | Oakwood School – North Hollywood AB | 1019.93839 |
17 | Palo Alto (Independent) FZ | 1019.935674 |
18 | Immaculate Heart DD | 1019.93044 |
19 | Oakwood School – North Hollywood AW | 1019.804952 |
20 | Harvard-Westlake SP | 1018.534227 |
21 | Cedar Park MT | 1018.00856 |
22 | Cypress Woods LC | 1017.861694 |
23 | Westwood DM | 1014.428964 |
24 | Harker EM | 1014.310498 |
25 | Lynbrook HW | 1014.276526 |
26 | Peninsula IG | 1014.150806 |
27 | Harvard-Westlake IP | 1014.144846 |
28 | Lynbrook CW | 1014.027903 |
29 | Palo Alto (Independent) BH | 1014.022651 |
30 | Polytechnic JL | 1014.014094 |
31 | Harvard-Westlake CE | 1013.903326 |
32 | Harvard-Westlake JN | 1013.76738 |
33 | Harvard-Westlake WB | 1013.765186 |
34 | Brentwood JD | 1013.653826 |
35 | Harvard-Westlake AM | 1013.649191 |
36 | MV Independent OZ | 1013.628885 |
37 | Harvard-Westlake KK | 1013.24016 |
38 | Cedar Park MG | 1010.912781 |
39 | Cypress Woods CJ | 1010.912776 |
40 | Law Magnet MG | 1010.912415 |
41 | Harvard-Westlake JD | 1010.912408 |
42 | Westwood SN | 1010.912034 |
43 | Strake Jesuit CP CL | 1007.327725 |
44 | Northland Christian MP | 1007.320186 |
45 | Greenhill MR | 1007.252924 |
46 | Harvard-Westlake VC | 1007.248918 |
47 | Texas Academy MX | 1007.248137 |
48 | Edgemont ML | 1007.215941 |
49 | Cy-Fair TW | 1007.211906 |
50 | LC Anderson IS | 1007.174533 |
51 | Kempner FH | 1007.174122 |
52 | Strake Jesuit CP AS | 1007.174088 |
53 | Strake Jesuit CP JH | 1007.135511 |
54 | Brentwood RY | 1007.069629 |
55 | Brentwood EL | 1007.056556 |
56 | Harvard-Westlake SK | 1006.823993 |
57 | San Marino KWu | 1006.814732 |
58 | Lynbrook AP | 1006.814142 |
59 | MV Independent LH | 1006.808794 |
60 | Marlborough GK | 1006.572023 |
61 | Brentwood WJ | 1006.561836 |
62 | Del Mar Independent FK | 1006.557272 |
63 | Lynbrook NA | 1006.537288 |
64 | Servite PA | 1006.187268 |
65 | Flower Mound MF | 1003.926501 |
66 | Winston Churchill WC | 1003.814286 |
67 | Colleyville Heritage CW | 1003.740295 |
68 | Klein Oak AG | 1003.739489 |
69 | Northland Christian KE | 1003.738714 |
70 | Klein NG | 1003.738319 |
71 | Edina AM | 1003.737904 |
72 | Westwood JA | 1003.737089 |
73 | Marcus ST | 1003.737072 |
74 | Marcus KL | 1003.70168 |
75 | Dulles AW | 1003.663913 |
76 | Prosper MK | 1003.662298 |
77 | Southlake Carroll SM | 1003.660275 |
78 | Greenhill BZ | 1003.659868 |
79 | Harvard-Westlake MG | 1003.58787 |
80 | Woodlands DY | 1003.587472 |
81 | Greenhill MK | 1003.587455 |
82 | Prosper ZE | 1003.586666 |
83 | Katy Taylor AW | 1003.585852 |
84 | LC Anderson JT | 1003.550023 |
85 | Westwood RS | 1003.475239 |
86 | St. John’s AW | 1003.437049 |
87 | Quarry Lane SK | 1000.270385 |
88 | Northwood Independent VA | 1000.262207 |
89 | Lynbrook YZ | 1000.247364 |
90 | San Marino BK | 1000.246865 |
91 | Winston Churchill JL | 1000.227614 |
92 | LC Anderson BD | 1000.226799 |
93 | Quarry Lane LL | 1000.128731 |
94 | Lake Travis KE | 1000.077165 |
95 | Kinkaid VL | 1000.077141 |
96 | Marlborough GN | 1000.009899 |
97 | Immaculate Heart MC | 1000.005198 |
98 | Marlborough MC | 1000.005146 |
99 | Brentwood ELi | 1000.004855 |
100 | North Hollywood JS | 999.9999487 |